1 00:00:31,450 --> 00:00:21,840 [Music] 2 00:00:37,460 --> 00:00:34,340 now you are electrifying hosts of 3 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:37,470 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 4 00:00:52,590 --> 00:00:48,900 Tim Tim what why did you have me come 5 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:52,600 down to this dark basement and and why 6 00:00:56,220 --> 00:00:54,310 are you looking so pale 7 00:00:59,490 --> 00:00:56,230 what's that froth coming out of your 8 00:01:03,990 --> 00:00:59,500 mouth all that Kyle that goo you're 9 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:04,000 dribbling I don't like that come closer 10 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:07,090 this goo is just for you Tim Schwartz 11 00:01:13,230 --> 00:01:10,930 it's just for you oh damn I see you're 12 00:01:15,540 --> 00:01:13,240 talking like our knife wielding ghost 13 00:01:17,940 --> 00:01:15,550 book looks like you're taking that a 14 00:01:21,810 --> 00:01:17,950 little too too much to heart you look 15 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:21,820 like a full-fledged green gob of a demon 16 00:01:27,210 --> 00:01:24,430 right out of ghostbusters I'm wait I 17 00:01:32,580 --> 00:01:27,220 need to find some holy water a Bible and 18 00:01:37,969 --> 00:01:32,590 a cross to keep you at bay slime slime 19 00:01:41,490 --> 00:01:37,979 slime it's all for you Tim Schwartz okay 20 00:01:43,140 --> 00:01:41,500 okay whatever you say just just just get 21 00:01:46,020 --> 00:01:43,150 away from me we better get back to the 22 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:46,030 case to our studios to see if our guest 23 00:01:55,530 --> 00:01:48,250 tonight can now help us turn you back 24 00:01:59,390 --> 00:01:55,540 into a human no just get away from slime 25 00:02:05,610 --> 00:01:59,400 slime this pool is for YouTube shorts 26 00:02:11,790 --> 00:02:05,620 slime I'm slime City yeah are you 27 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:11,800 feeling any better now no I tell you 28 00:02:16,860 --> 00:02:15,010 that it does got down got to me down 29 00:02:17,610 --> 00:02:16,870 there in the the basement I I really 30 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:17,620 felt 31 00:02:24,090 --> 00:02:20,560 it's very yucky why was I saying 32 00:02:28,020 --> 00:02:24,100 something weird no no no not at all just 33 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:28,030 just forget about it yeah well you know 34 00:02:33,690 --> 00:02:30,760 sometimes I I just get a little lay 35 00:02:35,970 --> 00:02:33,700 antsy and it couldn't start acting a 36 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:35,980 little as strange that's why I like to 37 00:02:43,170 --> 00:02:39,760 keep out of the basement so tonight I 38 00:02:47,729 --> 00:02:43,180 understand that our our subject is going 39 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:47,739 to be a ghost just holy guys man ghosts 40 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:51,040 poltergeists minions whatever you want 41 00:02:57,390 --> 00:02:55,090 to call them well you know we we did 42 00:03:03,490 --> 00:03:00,040 we did a book not too long ago what was 43 00:03:06,730 --> 00:03:03,500 it that knife-wielding ghost and and 44 00:03:08,860 --> 00:03:06,740 demons and things like that Maria had 45 00:03:11,710 --> 00:03:08,870 some the andrea has some experiences and 46 00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:11,720 we had a quite a few contributors on 47 00:03:15,550 --> 00:03:14,120 that because not all poder got well of 48 00:03:18,730 --> 00:03:15,560 course we don't poltergeist can be 49 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:18,740 pretty noisy and destructive but not as 50 00:03:24,130 --> 00:03:22,610 nasty as these Esso beasts like in 51 00:03:27,490 --> 00:03:24,140 ghostbusters 52 00:03:29,550 --> 00:03:27,500 were you know but you know my family I 53 00:03:32,740 --> 00:03:29,560 guess I have kind of a history of 54 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:32,750 poltergeist I was raised in a house or 55 00:03:37,780 --> 00:03:34,910 was growing up in a house that had doors 56 00:03:41,590 --> 00:03:37,790 opening and closing and a lights going 57 00:03:44,770 --> 00:03:41,600 on and often I remember one time a a 58 00:03:46,890 --> 00:03:44,780 pretty heavy plate slid across the table 59 00:03:50,020 --> 00:03:46,900 and fell onto the floor but didn't break 60 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:50,030 now this a little bit of a long story 61 00:03:54,580 --> 00:03:51,710 and I don't want to take away from our 62 00:03:57,250 --> 00:03:54,590 guests but my my grandfather and my 63 00:04:01,410 --> 00:03:57,260 father side of the family had a really 64 00:04:04,420 --> 00:04:01,420 bizarre experience that involved a 65 00:04:06,940 --> 00:04:04,430 headless horseman that he never had 66 00:04:09,940 --> 00:04:06,950 talked about now this took place in 67 00:04:11,650 --> 00:04:09,950 Shelbyville Kentucky a home of the 68 00:04:15,250 --> 00:04:11,660 famous that chicken king at Colonel 69 00:04:19,770 --> 00:04:15,260 Sanders and yeah it was back many many 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:19,780 years of ago and apparently my 71 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:22,010 grandfather was finishing up on the 72 00:04:26,890 --> 00:04:23,930 chores for the evening and he saw this 73 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:26,900 strange glow coming from behind a barn 74 00:04:35,260 --> 00:04:29,780 and he followed it the glow and there 75 00:04:40,060 --> 00:04:35,270 was a a soldier on a horse except that 76 00:04:45,190 --> 00:04:40,070 it was - a head now yeah horses the 77 00:04:47,740 --> 00:04:45,200 soldier a soldier well you know we've 78 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:47,750 never had a case of a headless Oh a 79 00:04:54,730 --> 00:04:49,730 horse I mean that would be very unusual 80 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:54,740 yeah but he'd ever like to talk about it 81 00:05:00,370 --> 00:04:57,890 because he was a very devout Baptist and 82 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:00,380 and they believe that all things of that 83 00:05:07,090 --> 00:05:03,470 nature are probably ascent from hell and 84 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:07,100 maybe he could be a correct but Kentucky 85 00:05:14,740 --> 00:05:09,110 was supposed to be a a neutral State 86 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:14,750 during the Civil War but the the 87 00:05:20,650 --> 00:05:17,510 Confederate Army tried to invade and 88 00:05:23,710 --> 00:05:20,660 take over a Kentucky and they had a call 89 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:23,720 for the Union for help so there were 90 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:27,050 some skirmishes there and some cannon 91 00:05:31,180 --> 00:05:29,690 and fodder and and so forth so we think 92 00:05:33,700 --> 00:05:31,190 that perhaps the Confederates the 93 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:33,710 soldier was injured 94 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:37,010 I mean drastically during some battle 95 00:05:44,860 --> 00:05:39,650 but have no a way of proving it but it 96 00:05:47,470 --> 00:05:44,870 is a a Beckley urban and legend and 97 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:47,480 that's an that's a good one too yeah 98 00:05:52,270 --> 00:05:49,310 yeah I've only told that story I think 99 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:52,280 once or twice and I think we have a 100 00:05:58,180 --> 00:05:54,560 humdinger of a story coming up this 101 00:06:02,620 --> 00:05:58,190 evening oh yeah well tonight I'm happy 102 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:02,630 that Keith Linder was gracious enough to 103 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:04,970 make a return visit to exploring the 104 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:08,750 bazaar keith was with us last year 105 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:13,070 talking about his first book the Bothell 106 00:06:17,740 --> 00:06:15,710 Hill House now Keith is a IT 107 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:17,750 professional from Texas living outside 108 00:06:23,770 --> 00:06:20,810 Seattle Washington now he's experienced 109 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:23,780 mysterious ghostly activity on an almost 110 00:06:30,910 --> 00:06:27,410 daily basis after he and his girlfriend 111 00:06:32,770 --> 00:06:30,920 Tina moved into their new house now 112 00:06:35,230 --> 00:06:32,780 these paranormal events nearly pushed 113 00:06:37,930 --> 00:06:35,240 Keith over the edge and was directly 114 00:06:40,450 --> 00:06:37,940 responsible for the breakup with his 115 00:06:42,490 --> 00:06:40,460 girlfriend who I said was also living in 116 00:06:44,770 --> 00:06:42,500 the house with him now two independent 117 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:44,780 paranormal teams substantiated Keith's 118 00:06:49,390 --> 00:06:47,570 claims but finally the time came when he 119 00:06:51,330 --> 00:06:49,400 decided to that was enough enough was 120 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:51,340 enough and moved out of the house and 121 00:06:59,530 --> 00:06:55,730 into an apartment now the question that 122 00:07:04,210 --> 00:06:59,540 was left open what Keith was with us the 123 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:04,220 last time was will the spirits follow 124 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:07,490 him so now Keith's latest book about his 125 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:10,970 experiences is attachments poltergeist 126 00:07:15,820 --> 00:07:12,860 of Washington State 127 00:07:17,860 --> 00:07:15,830 so maybe Keith can can answer that 128 00:07:20,290 --> 00:07:17,870 question that was left open the last 129 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:20,300 time he was on the show so Keith welcome 130 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:22,610 back to exploring the bizarre 131 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:25,910 hello gentlemen thanks for having me on 132 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:28,160 this Thursday night feels good to be 133 00:07:35,860 --> 00:07:32,050 here well indeed hey I have a question 134 00:07:39,490 --> 00:07:35,870 now I'm sure that most people listening 135 00:07:40,630 --> 00:07:39,500 in to our program have some inkling as 136 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:40,640 to what a poltergeist 137 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:44,510 is but have you got a definition that's 138 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:49,630 to your liking actually I kind of like 139 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:53,750 the old maybe current definition even 140 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:55,970 though I will admit and I think I said 141 00:08:01,840 --> 00:07:58,370 it in my book that it might be outdated 142 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:01,850 but it keeps it simple and what it says 143 00:08:08,770 --> 00:08:06,830 is a poltergeist is basically a noisy 144 00:08:10,810 --> 00:08:08,780 ghost even though we know now that 145 00:08:13,450 --> 00:08:10,820 Portuguese really don't fit into the 146 00:08:16,210 --> 00:08:13,460 category of ghost but we're splitting 147 00:08:19,090 --> 00:08:16,220 hairs there but basically a noisy ghost 148 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:19,100 in the word poltergeists 149 00:08:23,710 --> 00:08:21,310 when you separate those or German words 150 00:08:27,010 --> 00:08:23,720 one means ghost and the other one means 151 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:27,020 a noisemaker so therefore there you have 152 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:29,150 it I mean it keeps it simple in the 153 00:08:35,219 --> 00:08:31,520 sense of you can almost define 154 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:35,229 Portuguese with one sentence however 155 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:38,810 like I say at the description far 156 00:08:44,650 --> 00:08:42,050 exceeds what we know what we define it 157 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:44,660 as because like I said porcha guys do 158 00:08:52,540 --> 00:08:49,610 more than just make noise well I 159 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:52,550 understand now I I have here probably 160 00:08:59,470 --> 00:08:57,170 one of the best scientific or a pair of 161 00:09:00,850 --> 00:08:59,480 psychological reports that I have ever 162 00:09:03,340 --> 00:09:00,860 seen 163 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:03,350 involving a case and it had quite a 164 00:09:08,740 --> 00:09:06,170 number of researchers involved in 165 00:09:12,490 --> 00:09:08,750 drafting this copy it's called the 166 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:12,500 demons in Seattle case the Washington 167 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:15,890 State poltergeist and this in itself I 168 00:09:21,370 --> 00:09:18,290 mean it's not a book but the staple 169 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:21,380 barely fits through all the the pages 170 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:23,570 and it's very well illustrated with all 171 00:09:31,050 --> 00:09:26,720 the other things that went on in the 172 00:09:34,510 --> 00:09:31,060 house where you live now was this house 173 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:34,520 in the Seattle proper or in the suburbs 174 00:09:39,910 --> 00:09:36,290 or how would you classify the 175 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:39,920 neighborhood Seattle suburbs Bothell 176 00:09:53,110 --> 00:09:44,240 Washington is about 30 minutes north 177 00:09:55,329 --> 00:09:53,120 east of Seattle and how did you it did 178 00:09:57,069 --> 00:09:55,339 something occur like pretty much right 179 00:10:01,410 --> 00:09:57,079 away when you moved in and how long ago 180 00:10:05,230 --> 00:10:01,420 was that me Tina moved in May 1st of 181 00:10:07,449 --> 00:10:05,240 2012 and the interesting thing where 182 00:10:10,780 --> 00:10:07,459 this sort of parts ways with the current 183 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:10,790 understanding of Portuguese is we begin 184 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:13,610 experiencing phenomena right away 185 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:16,000 most people who have Portuguese 186 00:10:21,490 --> 00:10:18,800 encounters have been in a location a 187 00:10:25,689 --> 00:10:21,500 while there's been a change either in 188 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:25,699 the the home be it financial spiritual 189 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:30,649 mental physical in the home including 190 00:10:35,550 --> 00:10:33,230 home renovations that generally the rule 191 00:10:38,769 --> 00:10:35,560 of thumb is or the theory is that I 192 00:10:41,889 --> 00:10:38,779 conjure up at Portuguese activity 193 00:10:44,350 --> 00:10:41,899 manteno or the contrary to the rule and 194 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:44,360 then when we moved in this house was 195 00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:46,940 virtually brand-new was built in 2008 196 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:50,060 and we start having phenomena on day 1 197 00:10:57,309 --> 00:10:54,680 and okay so now the among the phenomena 198 00:11:00,309 --> 00:10:57,319 that's reportedly occurred there where 199 00:11:04,170 --> 00:11:00,319 apparitions Airport's object 200 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:04,180 manipulation incendiary conditions 201 00:11:09,910 --> 00:11:07,790 audible phenomena of phenomena physical 202 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:09,920 interaction apparitions electrical 203 00:11:16,079 --> 00:11:13,120 disturbances physical manifestations and 204 00:11:19,929 --> 00:11:16,089 interactions that's a mouthful 205 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:19,939 okay so okay so the first night you had 206 00:11:24,309 --> 00:11:22,399 a little bit of hanky-panky going on in 207 00:11:27,329 --> 00:11:24,319 the in a household what wouldn't if 208 00:11:33,009 --> 00:11:27,339 things really start to go bang bang bang 209 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:33,019 the gloves came off big time spring 210 00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:36,560 early spring of 2014 and by big time I 211 00:11:43,689 --> 00:11:39,769 mean large furniture I mean looking at 212 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:43,699 our kitchen armoire or a credenza with 213 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:46,010 flying across the room not levitating I 214 00:11:50,939 --> 00:11:48,110 mean flying across the room we're 215 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:50,949 talking about 10 or 12 feet 216 00:11:56,319 --> 00:11:53,360 and I mean did you think to yourself 217 00:11:58,329 --> 00:11:56,329 holy cow that there's got to be a spirit 218 00:12:01,780 --> 00:11:58,339 here or did you think yet maybe there 219 00:12:06,699 --> 00:12:01,790 were some earth tremors going on no we 220 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:06,709 knew we 2014 when the credenza woke us 221 00:12:11,980 --> 00:12:08,930 up because it flowed through the hallway 222 00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:11,990 we knew the spirits were back Oh 223 00:12:18,579 --> 00:12:15,680 summer 2012 the year we moved in we had 224 00:12:22,420 --> 00:12:18,589 come to the conclusion the house was 225 00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:22,430 haunted when the plant levitated by the 226 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:25,550 TV but we had had you know local 227 00:12:31,449 --> 00:12:30,050 churches assisting us trying to quiet 228 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:31,459 the house and wasn't the term 229 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:33,769 poltergeist we were totally oblivious to 230 00:12:39,069 --> 00:12:36,529 we thought it was some kid ghosts a kid 231 00:12:41,439 --> 00:12:39,079 spirit based on the kid coughing we 232 00:12:43,569 --> 00:12:41,449 heard on day one but once again that 233 00:12:45,999 --> 00:12:43,579 fits the mo of poltergeist meaning 234 00:12:49,119 --> 00:12:46,009 things start off gradually and then 235 00:12:51,460 --> 00:12:49,129 there's a crescendo there's a peak of 236 00:12:53,319 --> 00:12:51,470 activity that's unbelievable to the 237 00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:53,329 naked eye and that's what I just 238 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:56,089 described to you of the credenza flying 239 00:13:01,540 --> 00:12:58,490 across one side of the room to the other 240 00:13:05,079 --> 00:13:01,550 and I had that happen multiple times so 241 00:13:08,410 --> 00:13:05,089 you we saw that we knew they were back 242 00:13:10,809 --> 00:13:08,420 and just like other cases say when they 243 00:13:13,809 --> 00:13:10,819 come back a second time it's always 244 00:13:15,939 --> 00:13:13,819 worse than a previous encounter well now 245 00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:15,949 okay you say that the house was 246 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:22,480 relatively new that it was built in 2008 247 00:13:32,019 --> 00:13:29,689 yes okay well okay yeah yeah what kind 248 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:32,029 of poltergeist could be I mean why why 249 00:13:36,309 --> 00:13:32,480 worry 250 00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:36,319 why was the place spook well that's if 251 00:13:39,939 --> 00:13:38,480 you saw the report that was in the 252 00:13:42,629 --> 00:13:39,949 documentary that was one of the 253 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:42,639 perplexing questions for 254 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:45,889 parapsychologist Steve Mehra and is our 255 00:13:51,369 --> 00:13:48,529 Phillips because they had been in other 256 00:13:54,369 --> 00:13:51,379 homes of Portugese cases were running 257 00:13:57,689 --> 00:13:54,379 rampant and here you have a relatively 258 00:13:59,740 --> 00:13:57,699 brand-new house and you don't have any 259 00:14:02,590 --> 00:13:59,750 incinerated conditions you don't have 260 00:14:03,369 --> 00:14:02,600 any vexation of the house occupants 261 00:14:07,779 --> 00:14:03,379 maybe of theirs 262 00:14:09,429 --> 00:14:07,789 Oh appears of stress strife and whatnot 263 00:14:13,449 --> 00:14:09,439 that maybe you know theoretically that 264 00:14:17,769 --> 00:14:13,459 could be conjuring up PK RRSP k or 265 00:14:20,229 --> 00:14:17,779 telekinesis so they had to sort of pivot 266 00:14:23,139 --> 00:14:20,239 and leave that paradigm alone for a 267 00:14:26,289 --> 00:14:23,149 while because now if you see the 268 00:14:27,489 --> 00:14:26,299 conclusion of Steve's report and if you 269 00:14:29,919 --> 00:14:27,499 asked him he said yeah this is a 270 00:14:32,679 --> 00:14:29,929 portrait guys environmental clearly 271 00:14:35,649 --> 00:14:32,689 state that but he said a little it looks 272 00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:35,659 to be linked to the land what he 273 00:14:43,809 --> 00:14:39,639 classifies as Li H which is land or 274 00:14:45,189 --> 00:14:43,819 localized intelligent haunting because 275 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:45,199 what you basically have is you have a 276 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:49,279 phenomena happening in a home and both 277 00:14:53,859 --> 00:14:51,409 teams found evidence inside and outside 278 00:14:56,049 --> 00:14:53,869 the home they spent a lot of time 279 00:14:59,199 --> 00:14:56,059 researching the county records city 280 00:15:02,079 --> 00:14:59,209 records going into the forest to the 281 00:15:06,789 --> 00:15:02,089 creek behind the home and got valuable 282 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:06,799 EVPs and got spirits to admit of EVP 283 00:15:10,059 --> 00:15:07,970 why's that 284 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:10,069 yeah we're here we've been here a while 285 00:15:16,419 --> 00:15:13,850 and I'm paraphrasing but we're sort of 286 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:16,429 you know doing what we do because of the 287 00:15:23,319 --> 00:15:18,649 land and it's it's the land stupid was 288 00:15:25,809 --> 00:15:23,329 what the my okay what what okay what's 289 00:15:29,259 --> 00:15:25,819 what's unique about the the land are we 290 00:15:34,239 --> 00:15:29,269 talking about Native American sacred 291 00:15:36,729 --> 00:15:34,249 ground or burial ground er yes Bothell 292 00:15:38,769 --> 00:15:36,739 Washington anything I say today 293 00:15:42,009 --> 00:15:38,779 individuals listening tonight in Google 294 00:15:44,829 --> 00:15:42,019 and research online Bothell Washington a 295 00:15:47,859 --> 00:15:44,839 case in the Houmas County if you go back 296 00:15:49,719 --> 00:15:47,869 to the early mid 1800s this was a 297 00:15:52,179 --> 00:15:49,729 heavily populated Native American area 298 00:15:54,989 --> 00:15:52,189 like certain parts of the US 299 00:15:59,079 --> 00:15:54,999 what makes Martha Washington interesting 300 00:16:02,319 --> 00:15:59,089 to this area to this conversation is the 301 00:16:05,079 --> 00:16:02,329 level of small pot outbreaks that took 302 00:16:07,619 --> 00:16:05,089 place in the mid-1800s as well as the 303 00:16:10,539 --> 00:16:07,629 Puget Sound of Pacific Northwest 304 00:16:14,499 --> 00:16:10,549 Washington and where a lot of Native 305 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:14,509 Americans unfortunately were put in mass 306 00:16:19,210 --> 00:16:16,819 graves were totally 307 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:19,220 left alone to deal with their smallpox 308 00:16:23,859 --> 00:16:21,169 and I put a lot of that in my second 309 00:16:27,369 --> 00:16:23,869 book I spent a lot of time maybe four 310 00:16:30,969 --> 00:16:27,379 chapters in book two talking about that 311 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:30,979 what is what what is the the book called 312 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:33,529 some people can google it yeah the 313 00:16:39,090 --> 00:16:36,649 second book is called attachments - 314 00:16:41,229 --> 00:16:39,100 poetry guys of washington state 315 00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:41,239 part two the first we're being 316 00:16:46,659 --> 00:16:43,839 attachments dealing with the question of 317 00:16:48,669 --> 00:16:46,669 was i followed and what's going on on my 318 00:16:52,179 --> 00:16:48,679 new location so it felt fitting to name 319 00:16:54,489 --> 00:16:52,189 it that the word attachments so i poach 320 00:16:57,369 --> 00:16:54,499 aggressive washington state part two is 321 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:57,379 its subtitle well yeah washington state 322 00:17:02,919 --> 00:16:59,839 seems to have a history of some pretty 323 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:02,929 weird - and Anakin's there you've got of 324 00:17:10,389 --> 00:17:06,740 course kenneth Arnold's UFO sightings by 325 00:17:12,549 --> 00:17:10,399 Mount Rainier in 1947 that started all 326 00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:12,559 the flying saucer business and a few 327 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:15,199 days before actually was the Mauri 328 00:17:21,850 --> 00:17:18,339 Island incident where this object a 329 00:17:24,249 --> 00:17:21,860 supposedly exploded and some shag came 330 00:17:26,860 --> 00:17:24,259 down and slide came down and killed the 331 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:26,870 the dog on the boat and yeah the men and 332 00:17:31,659 --> 00:17:30,110 black showed up and all that and then in 333 00:17:34,990 --> 00:17:31,669 our own book that we just came out 334 00:17:36,460 --> 00:17:35,000 recently with the UFOs deja vu we talked 335 00:17:38,350 --> 00:17:36,470 about all these places around the 336 00:17:43,139 --> 00:17:38,360 country some of which are on the Native 337 00:17:45,700 --> 00:17:43,149 American land we mentioned the Yakima 338 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:45,710 Washington where where they actually 339 00:17:50,289 --> 00:17:48,110 even built a UFO tower sky watch tower 340 00:17:53,470 --> 00:17:50,299 where people were watching these things 341 00:17:57,070 --> 00:17:53,480 on a regular basis these glowing orbs 342 00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:57,080 coming you know in and out so that 343 00:18:02,200 --> 00:17:59,120 they're they're coming out of some other 344 00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:02,210 dimension or or whatever now are you 345 00:18:07,899 --> 00:18:05,320 satisfied that these poltergeists or 346 00:18:11,649 --> 00:18:07,909 deceased spirits or could they be some 347 00:18:15,310 --> 00:18:11,659 other sort of phenomena well for this 348 00:18:18,940 --> 00:18:15,320 house in this house particularly it's 349 00:18:20,940 --> 00:18:18,950 really several things going on and and I 350 00:18:25,210 --> 00:18:20,950 sent up based on the evidence uncovered 351 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:25,220 this house had a percentage of residual 352 00:18:33,970 --> 00:18:30,410 activity stone Tate theory activity 353 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:33,980 there was a lot of of course malevolent 354 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:37,790 activity some demonic definitely 355 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:40,880 poltergeist activity I mentioned on book 356 00:18:46,690 --> 00:18:44,600 about multiple apparition sightings you 357 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:46,700 said at the beginning of your show about 358 00:18:54,490 --> 00:18:50,690 minions and I throw very detail about 359 00:18:59,890 --> 00:18:54,500 the minions in the book who I listed as 360 00:19:02,530 --> 00:18:59,900 having 85 percent responsibility for the 361 00:19:06,730 --> 00:19:02,540 activity that we had but if you just 362 00:19:08,500 --> 00:19:06,740 take the sum of it all they all will fit 363 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:08,510 under the banner of pocha guys once 364 00:19:13,300 --> 00:19:09,710 again going through the simplest 365 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:13,310 definition out there but it was just a 366 00:19:18,790 --> 00:19:16,850 whole lot of stuff based on the EVPs and 367 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:18,800 the evidence that I found but the 368 00:19:23,170 --> 00:19:21,170 researchers themselves and Steve man has 369 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,180 his own assessment and when asked he 370 00:19:26,650 --> 00:19:25,280 will tell you it was nothing like he's 371 00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:26,660 ever encountered in previous 372 00:19:32,170 --> 00:19:29,840 investigations Don Philips the same way 373 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:32,180 in the sense that you just have a bowl 374 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:35,210 of different phenomena that really goes 375 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:37,820 against the parent paradigm of what we 376 00:19:45,250 --> 00:19:40,910 think poltergeists are now some have 377 00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:45,260 some of these events been videotaped yes 378 00:19:51,010 --> 00:19:48,230 a lot even dawn through their 379 00:19:53,890 --> 00:19:51,020 investigative methods with Nick Carr who 380 00:19:56,610 --> 00:19:53,900 was then the president of the SSP are 381 00:19:59,890 --> 00:19:56,620 out of Scotland were able to catch 382 00:20:01,660 --> 00:19:59,900 capture some of the shadowy figures and 383 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:01,670 I think that was in your report maybe a 384 00:20:07,180 --> 00:20:03,890 page or page a couple of pages where you 385 00:20:10,990 --> 00:20:07,190 see shadows and the frames about 21 odd 386 00:20:13,090 --> 00:20:11,000 frames of Shadows which I saw with my 387 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:13,100 own naked eye so I was able to vouch for 388 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:15,920 it immediately where their infrared 389 00:20:20,830 --> 00:20:18,170 devices picked up these shadows in my 390 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:20,840 hallway going left to right right to 391 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:23,510 left on the camera and individuals could 392 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:25,610 see that in the report you can see it on 393 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:27,770 my YouTube channel and they can see it 394 00:20:31,660 --> 00:20:29,570 in both books and that's like I said 395 00:20:34,150 --> 00:20:31,670 that's why I just I refer to as the 396 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:34,160 minions because they're about a foot in 397 00:20:39,850 --> 00:20:36,860 height they're very opaque 398 00:20:42,620 --> 00:20:39,860 they're very charcoal black I call them 399 00:20:46,970 --> 00:20:42,630 about a black as a trillion Midnight's 400 00:20:50,030 --> 00:20:46,980 and there's a lot of I can tell you 401 00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:50,040 right now there's a lot of them there 402 00:20:57,260 --> 00:20:53,070 was a lot of them are they are they all 403 00:21:06,140 --> 00:20:57,270 acting in consortium is that the right 404 00:21:07,670 --> 00:21:06,150 word I mean yes yes we're very I mean 405 00:21:10,190 --> 00:21:07,680 they're organized some of my team 406 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:10,200 members at work but they are they're 407 00:21:16,610 --> 00:21:13,770 very unison they're very each one knows 408 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:16,620 its individual role they don't stray or 409 00:21:20,930 --> 00:21:19,530 deviate from the what I call the plan 410 00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:20,940 which is to raise hell for the house 411 00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:24,590 occupants and like I said they were 412 00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:28,950 responsible for 85% of the activity mmmm 413 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:32,460 the burning Bibles the wall writings the 414 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:35,250 burning cross on the wall the objects 415 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:38,450 being thrown the poking and prodding 416 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:44,010 yeah well you know are a close associate 417 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:46,500 to hear a wall you know now you know 418 00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:48,930 he's been involved in the he was in the 419 00:21:55,310 --> 00:21:50,460 end and beginning their days are 420 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:55,320 associated with that the Warrens but I 421 00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:57,570 don't know you know he said that the 422 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:00,480 more you bought out the holy water and 423 00:22:06,140 --> 00:22:03,330 the the crosses and the Bibles the more 424 00:22:09,290 --> 00:22:06,150 irritated and I'm not just the the 425 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:09,300 spirit God and sometimes you can use a 426 00:22:15,470 --> 00:22:11,910 little bit of humor and stuff to to 427 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:15,480 persuade them to be a less of a violent 428 00:22:21,410 --> 00:22:18,390 or valiant in their attempts to to scare 429 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:21,420 people the the the the holy water and 430 00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:24,510 all just seem to to egg them on yeah 431 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,220 it's like throwing gasoline on the fire 432 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:27,840 where were malevolent spirits are 433 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:29,610 concerned because yeah we try holy water 434 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,930 you try Bibles you try crosses and they 435 00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:36,000 just turn around and throw it back at 436 00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:39,600 you did you see this I mean do you see 437 00:22:44,150 --> 00:22:41,880 this as a religious thing is a being 438 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:44,160 above a safe or where is that just a 439 00:22:49,790 --> 00:22:48,120 kind of a cover-up a camouflage I really 440 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:49,800 think based on what I know about the 441 00:22:53,390 --> 00:22:51,450 land underneath the house and how the 442 00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:53,400 Native Americans were tree to keep them 443 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:54,660 out when the Native American 444 00:22:59,780 --> 00:22:56,820 most of the more early treated because 445 00:23:01,850 --> 00:22:59,790 they were not had Christianity so you 446 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:01,860 have to think about is either convert or 447 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:04,830 die and here I come you know a century 448 00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:08,400 later with my Bible or my cross and yeah 449 00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:11,340 they're not having their well here comes 450 00:23:26,420 --> 00:23:16,140 our guy with his cross so we'll be back 451 00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:26,430 in just a few minutes now back to 452 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:29,670 exploring the bazaars with two of the 453 00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:31,710 most electrifying researchers in the 454 00:23:40,190 --> 00:23:35,100 Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca Lee 455 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:40,200 and Kings was welcome back to exploring 456 00:23:44,570 --> 00:23:41,610 the bizarre I'm Tim Schwartz 457 00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:44,580 tonight our guest is Keith Linder now 458 00:23:47,780 --> 00:23:45,030 Keith 459 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:47,790 is the author of the two books the 460 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:50,610 Bothell Hill House and attachments 461 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:53,610 poltergeist of Washington state both of 462 00:24:03,320 --> 00:23:57,210 these books deal with his experiences 463 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:03,330 living in a like a super uber haunted 464 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:06,810 house it's it's it's like the 465 00:24:14,510 --> 00:24:11,010 penultimate of halted haunted houses so 466 00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:14,520 now Keith we alluded to this at the 467 00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:19,140 beginning of the program you have you 468 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:23,550 did move from this house so was that it 469 00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:27,210 after you moved everything was was nice 470 00:24:34,460 --> 00:24:30,750 and quiet and and and your life is now 471 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:34,470 hunky-dory or did did these things 472 00:24:40,370 --> 00:24:37,110 decide that they liked you too much and 473 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:40,380 decided to go with you well they decided 474 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:42,990 they liked me too much and they sort of 475 00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:46,290 beat me there matter of fact because and 476 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:48,540 keep them with the theme of you know for 477 00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:51,690 years prior of activities starting the 478 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:53,310 day we moved in or the day we got the 479 00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:56,250 keys to the home the water puddle 480 00:25:00,980 --> 00:24:58,260 phenomena which fits under portrait guys 481 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:00,990 reported cases of mysterious water 482 00:25:07,550 --> 00:25:03,900 leaking from the ceiling and the surface 483 00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:07,560 is dry and there's no known source that 484 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:08,320 happened on day 485 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:12,610 - of moving in and I put the report that 486 00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:14,799 the maintenance guys and the the 487 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:17,200 landlord and the tenant and the manager 488 00:25:22,740 --> 00:25:20,110 because they responded to them my 9-1-1 489 00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:22,750 call of a water leakage was early 490 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:25,990 morning but yeah and i was on day two of 491 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:29,529 this weird water apparent and phenomena 492 00:25:34,350 --> 00:25:31,090 dripping down the walls dripping down 493 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:34,360 the ceiling and i'm i took that as a 494 00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:38,380 message of hey we're here you can't 495 00:25:42,899 --> 00:25:41,679 shake us you got a smaller place so 496 00:25:47,999 --> 00:25:42,909 we're all gonna be kind of crowded 497 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:48,009 together but we're here and yeah well i 498 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,200 saw is the is the activity as as 499 00:26:01,470 --> 00:25:55,600 powerful as what's going on in the 500 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:01,480 original house the activity was a 501 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:03,850 powerful even while it stephen dawn were 502 00:26:10,259 --> 00:26:08,110 there and even when i was leaving i will 503 00:26:12,749 --> 00:26:10,269 put it at a level one compared to a 504 00:26:15,509 --> 00:26:12,759 level five the activity upon me leaving 505 00:26:18,330 --> 00:26:15,519 the home i'm at the bottle home was 506 00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:18,340 about a level one the activity when i 507 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:20,620 moved to my new location was 508 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:23,710 significantly lower than that and that's 509 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:26,710 understandable in the sense of it's just 510 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:28,960 me there one thing I notice about 511 00:26:33,899 --> 00:26:31,440 Portuguese on the Netherlands spirits 512 00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:33,909 they really like it when it's two or 513 00:26:40,019 --> 00:26:38,049 more one person yeah okay but they a lot 514 00:26:43,649 --> 00:26:40,029 of the phenomena they did to me in teen 515 00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:43,659 ups we helped them indirectly man Tina 516 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:46,830 just just our presence our energy our 517 00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:50,169 synergy it's easy to pivot off one and 518 00:26:54,299 --> 00:26:52,960 the other and I'd notice when it was 519 00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:54,309 just even when I was living at home at 520 00:26:57,629 --> 00:26:55,750 year and a half by myself because Tina 521 00:27:00,360 --> 00:26:57,639 moved out a year and that before I did 522 00:27:02,129 --> 00:27:00,370 I noticed the activity died down 523 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:02,139 significantly but there was no knives 524 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:06,850 being thrown anymore no fires no Bibles 525 00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:11,049 being taken or burnt however there were 526 00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:14,230 still what I talk about even to this day 527 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:17,830 there's probably the worst feeling of 528 00:27:22,049 --> 00:27:19,870 all and I still go through this is the 529 00:27:25,410 --> 00:27:22,059 poking and the pry 530 00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:25,420 while sleeping the heart beats the 531 00:27:32,130 --> 00:27:28,720 phantom heart beats underneath both bed 532 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:32,140 and pillow even now and I and I've since 533 00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:33,850 moved from that location to a newer 534 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:37,300 location and that happens in hotels I 535 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:41,050 travel about in on business the poking 536 00:27:46,350 --> 00:27:44,050 and prodding the sheet tugging the 537 00:27:49,169 --> 00:27:46,360 electrical issues have never stopped so 538 00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,179 that phenomena even electrical issues in 539 00:27:53,549 --> 00:27:51,120 my car 540 00:27:57,150 --> 00:27:53,559 occasionally at work we had a phenomena 541 00:27:59,790 --> 00:27:57,160 and work last week that was weird and my 542 00:28:02,669 --> 00:27:59,800 IT guys and people I work with who know 543 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:02,679 this story who know my ordeal even they 544 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:05,440 admit that's just weird you know you're 545 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:06,550 in the conference room giving a 546 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:09,190 PowerPoint and things just go haywire go 547 00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:12,610 weird elevator malfunction they gotta 548 00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:14,940 call the technician down talking about a 549 00:28:20,370 --> 00:28:17,590 high-rise building and a five million 550 00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:20,380 dollar elevator cart and the technician 551 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:22,030 scratching his head about the electrical 552 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:24,340 issues in the elevator 553 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:29,110 so those things yeah is it worse or less 554 00:28:34,490 --> 00:28:31,870 worse I don't like to compare it to the 555 00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:34,500 bottle houses it was a different dynamic 556 00:28:40,650 --> 00:28:37,900 this dynamic is just me by myself 557 00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:40,660 or an occasional group of friends like a 558 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:43,929 house party or happy hour or patio 559 00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:46,809 barbecue but if you ask me which is 560 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:50,950 worse I would have to say probably based 561 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,130 on the level of spontaneity and the 562 00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:56,559 surprise surprise the Buffalo house is 563 00:29:00,810 --> 00:28:58,000 always going to edge out when I go 564 00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:00,820 through now because fires large objects 565 00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:03,280 being thrown chef knives your house 566 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:05,830 exploding light fixtures that went off 567 00:29:08,669 --> 00:29:07,330 for about three and a half years and we 568 00:29:11,610 --> 00:29:08,679 lived in a house for four years that 569 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:11,620 went on for at least 75% of the time 570 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:15,010 while in the home this is no comparison 571 00:29:20,940 --> 00:29:19,210 to that but at the same time it gets on 572 00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:20,950 your nerves it's more of an irritant you 573 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:24,070 know I call it up it's like a gnat or 574 00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:27,910 mosquito that you can't get rid of or 575 00:29:34,290 --> 00:29:32,470 fly yeah which which is probably what 576 00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:34,300 they're trying to do you know irritate 577 00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:35,180 you you know 578 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:40,760 strong emotion you know and they they 579 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:42,410 feed off of that that's I mean that's 580 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:43,970 that's one of the things that you know 581 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:46,130 Paul you know says is that these things 582 00:29:51,670 --> 00:29:49,490 you know feed off of the emotions that 583 00:29:55,450 --> 00:29:51,680 they that they elicit from you oh 584 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:55,460 definitely and I can tell and I'm a calm 585 00:30:01,300 --> 00:29:57,530 cool collected God tried to be and I 586 00:30:03,940 --> 00:30:01,310 could tell it might be a bit irritated 587 00:30:07,270 --> 00:30:03,950 them because like I said there's no Tina 588 00:30:10,540 --> 00:30:07,280 or other girlfriend to pivot off of to 589 00:30:13,060 --> 00:30:10,550 make it easier to raise the frustration 590 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:13,070 level versus just one person it's hard 591 00:30:16,930 --> 00:30:14,690 to be mad at yourself when you little ow 592 00:30:19,570 --> 00:30:16,940 it's hard to be curse yourself out it's 593 00:30:21,010 --> 00:30:19,580 hard to you know scream at the wall or 594 00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:21,020 ceiling when you're living by yourself 595 00:30:26,170 --> 00:30:24,110 so I know they're trying to you know 596 00:30:28,510 --> 00:30:26,180 they would love to go to that next level 597 00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:28,520 and I just saw Star Wars last so they 598 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:31,240 would love for me to go dark side 599 00:30:36,270 --> 00:30:33,770 go dark psyche go yeah give it to the 600 00:30:39,370 --> 00:30:36,280 give it give it to us give it to us but 601 00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:39,380 one person living alone makes that hard 602 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:42,110 to do at least I think so alright and 603 00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:47,450 and and and this phenomena has also kind 604 00:30:52,660 --> 00:30:50,150 of followed other people that that 605 00:30:53,980 --> 00:30:52,670 you've associated with you know friends 606 00:30:56,110 --> 00:30:53,990 maybe like a veil you know though 607 00:30:58,030 --> 00:30:56,120 they'll find that they're their own 608 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:58,040 house will have you know some things 609 00:31:02,850 --> 00:30:58,730 happen 610 00:31:06,250 --> 00:31:02,860 yeah it's run its run a few potential 611 00:31:09,970 --> 00:31:06,260 Tina replacements off and I listed those 612 00:31:12,790 --> 00:31:09,980 examples in my book in the sense of 613 00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:12,800 people who I meet you know trying to get 614 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:14,720 my life together and back the way I had 615 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:18,710 a prior had their own stories to tell of 616 00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:20,690 when they got get back to their 617 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:24,860 respective houses or if they show a what 618 00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:26,450 I call a significant interest in my 619 00:31:33,370 --> 00:31:30,200 story or my case it takes them within 48 620 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:33,380 hours or 72 hours to have phenomena 621 00:31:39,790 --> 00:31:37,370 happening at their place some have seen 622 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:39,800 what going back to the minions with 623 00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,330 their own eyes at my place and yeah they 624 00:31:47,299 --> 00:31:46,880 get seeing is really believing because I 625 00:31:49,639 --> 00:31:47,309 could tell 626 00:31:51,789 --> 00:31:49,649 you two of the individuals I'm talking 627 00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:51,799 about girls I've dated previously 628 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:55,350 actually said that you know hey not 629 00:31:58,850 --> 00:31:57,210 gonna scare me blah but I don't believe 630 00:32:01,610 --> 00:31:58,860 in that stuff or hey I believe in that 631 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:01,620 stuff but not gonna scare it my faith is 632 00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:05,090 what it is not gonna do it until until 633 00:32:11,989 --> 00:32:09,720 they see the minion what I call the 634 00:32:15,139 --> 00:32:11,999 minions face to face 635 00:32:17,749 --> 00:32:15,149 or when they experience phenomena face 636 00:32:21,019 --> 00:32:17,759 to face in their own house environment 637 00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:21,029 and I try to keep a positive look at it 638 00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:23,369 and say I understand when I get the you 639 00:32:27,769 --> 00:32:25,350 know the Dear John letter say hey you 640 00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:27,779 know I got you know this is not dealing 641 00:32:33,499 --> 00:32:30,840 with this but and that's fine but yeah 642 00:32:36,379 --> 00:32:33,509 they have experienced phenomena and that 643 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:36,389 follows once again under the that's why 644 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,129 I named the second book attachments 645 00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:40,799 because I wanted the reader to truly 646 00:32:46,669 --> 00:32:43,950 understand on many different levels 647 00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:46,679 what that means and what it means to 648 00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,080 have an attachment at least for me it's 649 00:32:53,889 --> 00:32:51,360 not so much oh it just happens in his 650 00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:53,899 house no no if you read my second book 651 00:33:00,379 --> 00:32:56,369 you gotta walk away understanding it 652 00:33:04,879 --> 00:33:00,389 happens at home work work travel 653 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:04,889 vacation dating and about running 654 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:09,690 errands all that and yeah I think the 655 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:12,450 word attachments would be the proper way 656 00:33:20,539 --> 00:33:17,490 to define that so now do you think that 657 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:20,549 this is going to be something and I and 658 00:33:24,649 --> 00:33:23,490 I hate to say this that you're going to 659 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:24,659 have to deal with with the rest of it 660 00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:25,740 for the rest of your life 661 00:33:31,609 --> 00:33:29,039 that somehow you have become a marked 662 00:33:33,499 --> 00:33:31,619 man so to speak and that these things 663 00:33:35,239 --> 00:33:33,509 are like you know hey we let you know we 664 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:35,249 love this guy and we're gonna be with 665 00:33:40,879 --> 00:33:37,490 him you know till the very end 666 00:33:45,529 --> 00:33:40,889 yeah well I forgot that quote aware to 667 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:45,539 the very it but yeah I tried to look at 668 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:49,110 if there is a man silver lining to that 669 00:33:54,289 --> 00:33:50,610 because you're right 670 00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:54,299 I have had that thought and honestly I 671 00:33:59,310 --> 00:33:56,279 think I am going to have them to the 672 00:34:03,030 --> 00:33:59,320 very I see no indication 673 00:34:06,090 --> 00:34:03,040 as to why they would taper off or leave 674 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:06,100 and I tried everything but in the 675 00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:08,650 meantime what I can do while they're 676 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:11,710 here is document the phenomenon when it 677 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:14,260 happens reach out to individuals who 678 00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:16,000 study this stuff and give them what I 679 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,240 document and try to get people advice as 680 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:20,800 to what not to do 681 00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:23,650 and for me personally just live my life 682 00:34:32,190 --> 00:34:28,720 as I was living it always so yeah I sort 683 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:32,200 of think that and on the flip side the 684 00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:34,570 silver lining or the response or the 685 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:36,430 positive feedback I've got from 686 00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:38,890 individuals after reading book one and 687 00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:41,140 now after reading book two is like yeah 688 00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:43,540 yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean the 689 00:34:49,740 --> 00:34:45,780 Australian our parapsychological 690 00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:49,750 Institute recently just said a Keith 691 00:34:53,580 --> 00:34:51,310 Linda's story Keith loved this book 692 00:34:56,340 --> 00:34:53,590 keeping his evidence and all the 693 00:34:59,610 --> 00:34:56,350 evidence compiled about this case has 694 00:35:01,950 --> 00:34:59,620 really turned poltergeist phenomena or 695 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:01,960 what we think it is on top of his head 696 00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:05,170 so I if it's going to be studied and 697 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:09,280 redefined and analyzed yeah I couldn't I 698 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:11,170 could feel that as lemonade versus 699 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:16,960 lemons yeah well and Steve Steve Mehra 700 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:21,250 and and his team I mean not only they 701 00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:23,740 came to your house two times which is 702 00:35:30,810 --> 00:35:26,950 which was fantastic I mean and they 703 00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:30,820 really did such an excellent job 704 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:33,310 you know compiling the evidence I mean 705 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:35,890 they they spent I mean how long each 706 00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:39,910 time at least a week they were there you 707 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:42,640 know which you see so many of these you 708 00:35:46,650 --> 00:35:44,890 know so-called you know you have a UFO I 709 00:35:48,030 --> 00:35:46,660 mean ghost hunters and now I mean 710 00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:48,040 they're there for a night and then they 711 00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:50,080 go you know then they go away but you 712 00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:52,180 know Steve and his group I mean they 713 00:35:57,650 --> 00:35:54,580 they went all out in this and that in 714 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:01,320 Steve dawn lived in house two and a half 715 00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:04,450 weeks that came January in April of 2016 716 00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:08,920 before they even came we were doing a 717 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:12,630 series of conference calls interviews 718 00:36:18,020 --> 00:36:15,210 and evaluations for about three or four 719 00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:18,030 months so they were prepping before the 720 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:19,500 trip and like you said they came from 721 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:24,510 the UK they came twice and they lived in 722 00:36:28,850 --> 00:36:26,250 the home each time they came and they 723 00:36:30,770 --> 00:36:28,860 bought Nick Kyle the second time and I 724 00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:30,780 gave you in the world I should say 725 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:31,950 because the report is free and available 726 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:36,510 the 60 Plus page report of everything 727 00:36:41,570 --> 00:36:38,910 they did and they shared it to anybody 728 00:36:43,070 --> 00:36:41,580 who asked and it's easily accessible 729 00:36:47,090 --> 00:36:43,080 well you're right it's a difference 730 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:47,100 between investigating and ghost hunting 731 00:36:51,610 --> 00:36:49,530 mm-hmm and a lot of things you see on TV 732 00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:51,620 today a lot of things you see on 733 00:36:56,420 --> 00:36:54,630 entertainment or whatever that's just 734 00:36:57,970 --> 00:36:56,430 ghost hunting you know you go into a 735 00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:57,980 house with a flashlight 736 00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:01,440 k2 meter aha I'm the word goes then you 737 00:37:05,540 --> 00:37:03,750 know I got up you you find that one 738 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:05,550 shred of evidence might not be evidence 739 00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:08,400 but your status your thirst has been 740 00:37:13,220 --> 00:37:10,980 quenched you know you take your picture 741 00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:13,230 of your or but your dust particle and 742 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:14,670 you're good you're good 743 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:18,330 you know however the house occupants are 744 00:37:25,820 --> 00:37:23,250 still dealing with the problem and Steve 745 00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:25,830 and Dawn were mature enough and had 746 00:37:30,350 --> 00:37:28,350 enough knowledge to know poltergeists 747 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:30,360 don't respond on cue you don't snap your 748 00:37:33,830 --> 00:37:31,890 fingers and say come out come out 749 00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:33,840 wherever you are they had to go after 750 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:36,120 the evidence the spirits were not gonna 751 00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:39,750 give anybody anything for free you have 752 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:42,840 to go and get the evidence and know what 753 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:45,330 is evidence and what is not Steve 754 00:37:55,610 --> 00:37:52,110 classify 424 430 EVPs of Class A Class B 755 00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:55,620 and a majority which are in my life you 756 00:38:02,420 --> 00:37:58,920 ask me or good EVPs they throw away 757 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:02,430 because anything below a Class B you 758 00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:03,510 know you're gonna take into the 759 00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:04,910 community it's gonna be debatable or 760 00:38:10,850 --> 00:38:07,800 that we don't even just deal with those 761 00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:10,860 we want to deal with the ones that Class 762 00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:13,400 A Class B that have a high probability 763 00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:17,340 of no matter who you give it to people 764 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:20,240 are going to understand those are 765 00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:23,430 unknown or unexplained voices on voice 766 00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:24,640 recorders 767 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:26,920 and I would say they probably threw away 768 00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:33,010 more EVPs the ones you see or probably 769 00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:34,990 more quality than what you see on TV 770 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:38,740 they throw away and we're left with four 771 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:41,110 hundred and thirty something EVPs which 772 00:38:47,310 --> 00:38:45,070 is still a lot which is still a lot and 773 00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:47,320 like I said it's easy accessible and 774 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:50,020 people can access those EVPs and both 775 00:38:57,690 --> 00:38:53,530 books of mine well you know I'm looking 776 00:39:00,450 --> 00:38:57,700 here at all the things that are on 777 00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:00,460 YouTube in reference to you and this 778 00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:03,670 case can you pick one or two of videos 779 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:06,160 perhaps that people who are interested 780 00:39:14,070 --> 00:39:08,650 in to delving the into this further I 781 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:14,080 would find the most Museum what's the 782 00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:16,390 word now I think most conclusive yeah 783 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:19,540 there you go yeah inclusive yes because 784 00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:21,010 I want people to do this and this is 785 00:39:25,610 --> 00:39:23,620 like I said this is free anybody listen 786 00:39:30,510 --> 00:39:25,620 to me now can go to youtube and type in 787 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:30,520 demons in Seattle uncovered and I know 788 00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:32,170 some listeners out there probably say 789 00:39:36,510 --> 00:39:34,360 this guy's not you know I saw more ghost 790 00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:36,520 adventures and zak bagans ripped him to 791 00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:37,150 shreds 792 00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:38,440 well the name of that Ghost Adventures 793 00:39:44,670 --> 00:39:41,350 episode was called demons in Seattle so 794 00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:44,680 I want individuals to watch demons in 795 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:46,630 Seattle if they forgot about it cuz it 796 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:48,610 came out a couple years ago rewatched 797 00:39:55,530 --> 00:39:52,090 that and then watch demons in Seattle 798 00:39:57,780 --> 00:39:55,540 uncovered and you can see the the 799 00:40:02,070 --> 00:39:57,790 investigative methods comparison is 800 00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:02,080 different as night and day actually you 801 00:40:07,350 --> 00:40:04,720 mean Zach actually cut somebody down he 802 00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:07,360 found the place that he couldn't find 803 00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:09,790 phenomena going on that that's unheard 804 00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:15,430 of I can't believe that yes even dogs 805 00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:18,670 documentary like I said which is hour an 806 00:40:23,450 --> 00:40:21,670 hour and a half long it covers the two 807 00:40:26,010 --> 00:40:23,460 and a half week investigation 808 00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:26,020 individuals can watch that one and then 809 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:27,960 make up their own minds and understand 810 00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:31,690 about Portuguese phenomena itself also 811 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:33,430 if they if they also want to go a little 812 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:35,710 bit further than that learning just type 813 00:40:40,450 --> 00:40:38,450 in Keith l or Keith lender and 814 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:40,460 you tube and you automatically get to my 815 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:43,190 channel my channel where there are over 816 00:40:50,859 --> 00:40:48,050 600 videos and five mini documentaries 817 00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:50,869 explaining about the wall analysis we 818 00:40:54,130 --> 00:40:52,550 found out what that substance was made 819 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:54,140 of there's an hour and a half video 820 00:41:00,250 --> 00:40:57,290 showing how I was able to discern what 821 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:00,260 that black gooey stuff on my wall so we 822 00:41:09,220 --> 00:41:06,730 have we have real slime yeah today so 823 00:41:09,730 --> 00:41:09,230 our little beginning wasn't too out of 824 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:09,740 hand 825 00:41:17,890 --> 00:41:16,720 oh I knew it all along black black 826 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:17,900 hillbilly 827 00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:23,900 black oil Texas there was one guy in 828 00:41:28,750 --> 00:41:25,790 England remember he was investigating 829 00:41:30,609 --> 00:41:28,760 UFOs and I guess he was sly because they 830 00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:30,619 need did he choke on the slime or 831 00:41:36,010 --> 00:41:33,260 something Tim and it was the black ooze 832 00:41:39,730 --> 00:41:36,020 I think yeah yeah yeah he was in he was 833 00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,740 in he was in Poland and started I guess 834 00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:41,839 you know puking that stuff up and enough 835 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:46,640 often away yeah yeah remember the 836 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:50,950 Belgian guy's case where the the spirit 837 00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:54,290 we got we got is almost as many books as 838 00:42:01,450 --> 00:41:59,839 you got did YouTube videos yeah we got 839 00:42:04,089 --> 00:42:01,460 we got a bell which book right did we 840 00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:04,099 win then a couple of years ago that come 841 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:10,400 up yeah in fact we had we had somebody 842 00:42:14,530 --> 00:42:12,410 on our show one time a Tim that 843 00:42:16,089 --> 00:42:14,540 purported to be related to the Bell 844 00:42:23,050 --> 00:42:16,099 Witch or something had to the owner 845 00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:23,060 thing yeah suppose supposedly well I I 846 00:42:27,460 --> 00:42:24,710 won't I won't say anything negative 847 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:27,470 because I never do but the show nor they 848 00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:29,690 Amy or whatever was didn't last very 849 00:42:38,490 --> 00:42:33,920 long the bell which lasted login to the 850 00:42:41,710 --> 00:42:38,500 show did well you know one of the things 851 00:42:45,099 --> 00:42:41,720 Keith that I found fascinating about 852 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:45,109 this case was one of the EVPs that 853 00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:48,490 really showed that you know these things 854 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:52,640 were intelligent and were 855 00:42:59,029 --> 00:42:56,729 observing what was going on because they 856 00:43:00,799 --> 00:42:59,039 were they were fascinated at one point 857 00:43:04,219 --> 00:43:00,809 by some of the equipment that was being 858 00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:04,229 brought in yeah that's on the document 859 00:43:08,269 --> 00:43:05,880 read this mention of Stephen Don in the 860 00:43:09,979 --> 00:43:08,279 hallway and they're sitting up equipment 861 00:43:11,569 --> 00:43:09,989 and then and they got it already got the 862 00:43:15,859 --> 00:43:11,579 listening devices laced throughout the 863 00:43:17,749 --> 00:43:15,869 house and upon review of their video 864 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:17,759 they capture these voices or they hear 865 00:43:21,949 --> 00:43:19,890 these voices and it's two male voices 866 00:43:24,469 --> 00:43:21,959 and these voices are having a 867 00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:24,479 conversation like their murmuring like 868 00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:28,079 it's a camera it's a camera and they're 869 00:43:34,009 --> 00:43:31,140 saying words like night cam night cam 870 00:43:35,809 --> 00:43:34,019 and then another video in my second book 871 00:43:38,059 --> 00:43:35,819 where they're in the bathroom Stephen 872 00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:38,069 Dawn you hear the same male voices 873 00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:41,369 saying you know he's laying down some 874 00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:44,910 cable and the other voice is telling the 875 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,430 other spirit to take one of the devices 876 00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:50,160 take one you know go lift one of these 877 00:43:58,839 --> 00:43:54,569 and so crystal-clear intelligent 878 00:44:02,269 --> 00:43:58,849 deliberate they're very observant and 879 00:44:04,219 --> 00:44:02,279 some of their word phrases you me and 880 00:44:05,269 --> 00:44:04,229 other humans don't use like we don't say 881 00:44:08,059 --> 00:44:05,279 night cam 882 00:44:10,759 --> 00:44:08,069 we don't say image detector they were 883 00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:10,769 talking about the infrared devices in 884 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,049 the room or in the environment but we 885 00:44:18,499 --> 00:44:15,599 don't call those devices night cam or 886 00:44:21,289 --> 00:44:18,509 infrared or or image detector but that's 887 00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:21,299 what the voices were saying and they're 888 00:44:25,699 --> 00:44:23,640 an Irish accent so they're in a distinct 889 00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:25,709 accent because you can hear Steve and 890 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:29,009 Don's British accent if you hear these 891 00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,130 voices underneath there's there are 892 00:44:36,709 --> 00:44:34,319 total opposite of that and like I said 893 00:44:40,549 --> 00:44:36,719 very intelligent very deliberate very 894 00:44:43,099 --> 00:44:40,559 concise and this imagine me and Tina for 895 00:44:44,479 --> 00:44:43,109 three years sitting upon camera not 896 00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:44,489 knowing what we're doing or going about 897 00:44:49,609 --> 00:44:47,069 our daily lives in these spirits giving 898 00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:49,619 commentary amongst themselves about what 899 00:44:55,069 --> 00:44:52,920 we're doing and creating habit for us to 900 00:44:57,679 --> 00:44:55,079 live through so it really when I heard 901 00:44:58,359 --> 00:44:57,689 those voices by Steve those really blew 902 00:45:01,069 --> 00:44:58,369 me away 903 00:45:02,779 --> 00:45:01,079 all right well unfortunately we all have 904 00:45:04,699 --> 00:45:02,789 about three minutes left in the show 905 00:45:05,690 --> 00:45:04,709 Keith so why don't you let our audience 906 00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:05,700 know 907 00:45:10,609 --> 00:45:07,380 where they can find your books their 908 00:45:12,589 --> 00:45:10,619 titles and and to check out your your 909 00:45:16,759 --> 00:45:12,599 YouTube channel and all these fantastic 910 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:16,769 videos that are out there I want to say 911 00:45:21,529 --> 00:45:18,690 just like I said thank you for both for 912 00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:21,539 you guys for having me on tonight it's 913 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:22,710 good to chat with you 914 00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:24,930 but two books those who are not familiar 915 00:45:32,299 --> 00:45:28,400 with book one of the Bothell Hale house 916 00:45:35,690 --> 00:45:32,309 on Amazon it's part one it's four year 917 00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:35,700 account four-year ordeal of man Tina in 918 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:39,119 the home attachment support you guys of 919 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:41,730 Washington state part two picks up where 920 00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:43,410 that book left off it picks up with me 921 00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:45,420 having two remaining months in the home 922 00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:47,700 there's three questions that I answer 923 00:45:55,759 --> 00:45:51,720 number one why is the house haunted what 924 00:45:59,059 --> 00:45:55,769 was the wall analysis made out of a word 925 00:46:02,269 --> 00:45:59,069 the wall houses come from and will I be 926 00:46:04,339 --> 00:46:02,279 followed so individuals can check those 927 00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:04,349 two books out and like I said there are 928 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:06,240 links in the video it's an interactive 929 00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:08,970 book for Kindle and paperback is very 930 00:46:14,569 --> 00:46:11,430 interactive there links and evidence the 931 00:46:17,329 --> 00:46:14,579 EVP is the audio the reports I mean 932 00:46:19,579 --> 00:46:17,339 there's so many reports in both books to 933 00:46:21,319 --> 00:46:19,589 where once you read the book you now 934 00:46:25,009 --> 00:46:21,329 have homework assignment of your own 935 00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:25,019 that you can massive massive amount of 936 00:46:31,220 --> 00:46:27,569 research very very very well done 937 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:31,230 research I you know I tremendous 938 00:46:42,380 --> 00:46:39,210 absolute Menace anyway I do want to 939 00:46:44,329 --> 00:46:42,390 remind our folks here that the show will 940 00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:44,339 be archived as shortly so you can listen 941 00:46:49,089 --> 00:46:45,900 to it again if you missed anything and 942 00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:49,099 don't forget our YouTube channel mr. UFO 943 00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:53,569 secret files and our own ghosts wheeling 944 00:46:58,190 --> 00:46:55,920 knife-wielding a ghost that's the name 945 00:47:01,309 --> 00:46:58,200 of it them right I'm sure that's right 946 00:47:01,730 --> 00:47:01,319 thanks Keith hey thanks guys have a good 947 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:01,740 night 948 00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:03,450 you back to betcha talk to you soon 949 00:47:13,950 --> 00:47:05,730 wonderful wonderful ghosts a poltergeist 950 00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:16,200 you've been listening to exploring the 951 00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:19,420 bazaar with hosts Timothy Beckley 952 00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:22,960 panting Swartz they're taking back the 953 00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:25,240 night by jetting non-stop across the 954 00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:27,790 cosmos in search of the truly bizarre 955 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:31,089 and totally unexplained with you as 956 00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:34,450 their combines Thursday nights at 7:00 957 00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:38,230 p.m. Pacific 10:00 p.m. Eastern and the 958 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:40,940 K cor digital radio 959 00:47:46,810 --> 00:47:43,370 for more information on exploring the 960 00:47:49,660 --> 00:47:46,820 bazaars and hosts Timothy Becca and Tim 961 00:47:52,780 --> 00:47:49,670 Swartz check out their K cor digital 962 00:47:58,990 --> 00:47:52,790 radio network follow their YouTube 963 00:48:09,390 --> 00:47:59,000 channel @m our UFO 1100 explore the